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on 3/23/2014, 7:24 pm
To be honest its hard for me to tell with the sound of Gogo dancing porn music blasting in the video
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on 3/23/2014, 8:14 pm
@BuchonlxD wrote:Stop bitching to SXR , he's mad already because that guy , don't be bitches now

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@BuchonlxD wrote:Stop bitching to SXR , he's mad already because that guy , don't be bitches now

That don't even look like his work

@SXR123 wrote:it is my work. It's on my channel. I've been advertising it for three years.

it's my movie.

ɹǝɐןןıʌ wrote:
@Granadico wrote:So SXR when are you gonna senpaku yourself for stealing that person's hard work

@Face wrote:ANSWER FOR YOUR CRIMES!!!!!!!!!!

@afromario wrote:That don't even look like his work

I almost spat my tea.

I haven't Laughed that hard in A very long time....

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on 3/23/2014, 8:16 pm
@SXR123 wrote:it is my work. It's on my channel. I've been advertising it for three years.

it's my movie.

Lol that was just a joke bro. I've already seen the animation a LONG time ago so whoever this darksonic guy stole your vid and duping people as if he made it himself.

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on 3/23/2014, 10:27 pm
Yeah shame on this guy for ripping off someone else's animation.

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on 3/23/2014, 10:30 pm
LOL Oh gawd, here we go. I'm not even saying anything this time around
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on 3/23/2014, 10:35 pm
@Mr Lange wrote:Yeah shame on this guy for ripping off someone else's animation.

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on 3/23/2014, 10:38 pm
Not even gonna try and deny.

Yes, we did take inspiration from Alvin. The gun is inspiration from alvin, as was Mecha's personality in the movie.

at the very least, we didn't use the Mecha sonic that everyone else uses. Thanks to langes suggestion.


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on 3/23/2014, 10:41 pm
eh everyone takes inspiration from others, some more than others but still. Its different when the entire freakin thing is pretty indistinguishable

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on 3/23/2014, 10:43 pm
And hey the actual gun is different too!

Just saying...


You know, it's incredibly hard to be original these days. Even game developers and movie directors are having problems with it. It's like with any kind of movie or game or something you can have people who can see how that piece of work is similar from other pieces of work. I think we should just make what we want to make because fuck it, we're having fun and there's nothing wrong with having fun as long as we aren't harming blatantly harming others, IMO.

edit: Damn it granny, always saying things better and more concisely than I do lmao
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on 3/23/2014, 10:50 pm
Yeah but didnt alvin sorta revolutionize the spriting world up a few levels? I mean when he made this shit it was during a time of sonic recolors all named Blaze or lsw dragonball z sprites. Then alvin comes along and everybody tried to be like him so its not like it was only a couple people.
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on 3/23/2014, 11:17 pm
@Granadico wrote:eh everyone takes inspiration from others, some more than others but still. Its different when the entire freakin thing is pretty indistinguishable

I strongly Agree

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on 3/23/2014, 11:18 pm
@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:edit: Damn it granny, always saying things better and more concisely than I do lmao
 I love you haha not really i just was lazy and wanted to be short and simple

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on 3/23/2014, 11:22 pm
@AlexTGS wrote:Yeah but didnt alvin sorta revolutionize the spriting world up a few levels? I mean when he made this shit it was during a time of sonic recolors all named Blaze or lsw dragonball z sprites. Then alvin comes along and everybody tried to be like him so its not like it was only a couple people.

The Sonic world however took a HUGE leap compared to DBZ LSW. Heck, it's hard not finding a Sonic animation uploaded to newgrounds every few weeks (Granted, most of them are not newgrounds worthy).

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on 3/23/2014, 11:37 pm
...Yea LSW sprites got the Shaft....Shame too they're Awesome.

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on 3/24/2014, 12:02 am
@Face wrote:...Yea LSW sprites got the Shaft....Shame too they're Awesome.

one of the reasons I used them.

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on 3/24/2014, 12:15 am
@SXR123 wrote:inspiration
Yeah that's uh... that's one word for it.

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:And hey the actual gun is different too!
Just saying...
Circle with trapezoid fixture with trapezoid decoration in it, but its a little different so that must make it ok.

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:You know, it's incredibly hard to be original these days.
No it's not. And even if it is, 10/10 excuse. It's hard so let's just not try at all and make total piss out of something someone else did that was original, because if what they did was cool, your version will be just as cool, fucking logic right. Why would you WANT to blatantly copy someone else anyway?? Wouldn't you want to try and do your own thing at least?

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:Even game developers and movie directors are having problems with it. It's like with any kind of movie or game or something you can have people who can see how that piece of work is similar from other pieces of work.
Yeah I'm sick of this being stapled to the argument, it's a different fucking argument altogether and has no place here. There is a massive difference between "similar" and "copy".

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:I think we should just make what we want to make
Goes back to my point of why in the hell would you want to copy others. You're not entirely "making" something if you're just copying it.

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:because fuck it, we're having fun and there's nothing wrong with having fun as long as we aren't harming blatantly harming others, IMO.
Who the hell has fun ripping off SMBZ-- a lot of people apparently nevermind. Although this suddenly begs the question, is this a sprite animation forum or a "SMBZ clone" forum? I'm thinking you guys might as well make an SMBZ clone forum since you love it so much, as a containment forum, you know, a quarantine for the plague of shit that is definitely it's own category. Here, we make sprite animations. There, you can pat each other on the back for being Alvin wannabes and just have a merry old time making an entire god damn atheneum of SMBZ clones and build your fortress of self gratification that has an army of incredibly hostile and defensive people ready to lose their shit the moment a single person gets near and tells them what they're doing is pathetic and that they should try something original, they'll arm their slings and cannons with classical comebacks such as "IT'S JUST FOR FUN" and "SO IF IT USES DBZ SOUNDS ITS A RIPOFF" ensuring that they will never have to give a flying shit about what little respect there is left in sprite animation and actively eroding it until there's nothing left, and what does it matter should anyone think them low or repulsive so long as their community is constantly congratulating them with hollow remarks and dishonest blessings ad nauseum for their ugly mutant spawn that they'll caress and admire and put on unrighteous pedestals while never budging from their wonderful tumorous comfort stank. But hey it's just for fun guys.

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on 3/24/2014, 12:38 am
@Mr Lange wrote: what little respect there is left in sprite animation and actively eroding it until there's nothing left,

Speaking of which, there should be a thread trynna figure out how to revive this shit Serious
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on 3/24/2014, 12:38 am
@Mr Lange wrote:
@SXR123 wrote:inspiration
Yeah that's uh... that's one word for it.

That is the word for it. Here are some examples of inspiration:

The space laser from Batman Beyond - Return of the Joker: https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img409/1093/laserl.jpg

Was inspired by the space laser from Akira. I'd dare say they are nearly identical.
http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/SOL-jj-001.jpg

Only difference is one is far away and one is up close.

Space colony Ark and the Death egg were both inspired by the Death star.

I'm not gonna try and dodge the fact that the cannon looks pretty similar if not almost identical to alvin's. Like I said, Mecha's entire personality was pretty much inspired by Alvins. But putting a cannon on Mecha sonic isn't all that original either. He just made him more robotic. If you're talking about the perspective, well, yeah. They're pretty much the same.

and while I know you're exaggerating, completely and totally ripping off ones own hard work while claiming it as your own and using one idea from another animation are two totally different things.

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on 3/24/2014, 3:30 am
@SXR123 wrote:
@Mr Lange wrote:
@SXR123 wrote:inspiration
Yeah that's uh... that's one word for it.

That is the word for it. Here are some examples of inspiration:

The space laser from Batman Beyond - Return of the Joker: https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img409/1093/laserl.jpg

Was inspired by the space laser from Akira. I'd dare say they are nearly identical.
http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/SOL-jj-001.jpg

Only difference is one is far away and one is up close.
Giant satellite space laser is a more general idea. What you did with Mecha Sonic is absurdly specific.

@SXR123 wrote:Space colony Ark and the Death egg were both inspired by the Death star.
That's more of a parody actually.

@SXR123 wrote:I'm not gonna try and dodge the fact that the cannon looks pretty similar if not almost identical to alvin's. Like I said, Mecha's entire personality was pretty much inspired by Alvins. But putting a cannon on Mecha sonic isn't all that original either. He just made him more robotic. If you're talking about the perspective, well, yeah. They're pretty much the same.
Mecha Sonic never had an arm cannon of any kind, that was Alvin's idea and a good one for expanding Mecha Sonic as a character. Perspective? How about that, the focus strip, and the hand drawn knockoff of staring down the cannon's barrel with a little trapezoid fixture and decoration on it. Oh and it's Mecha Sonic for some reason in case you forgot.

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on 3/24/2014, 4:29 am
@Mr Lange wrote:
@SXR123 wrote:
@Mr Lange wrote:
@SXR123 wrote:inspiration
Yeah that's uh... that's one word for it.

That is the word for it. Here are some examples of inspiration:

The space laser from Batman Beyond - Return of the Joker: https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img409/1093/laserl.jpg

Was inspired by the space laser from Akira. I'd dare say they are nearly identical.
http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/SOL-jj-001.jpg

Only difference is one is far away and one is up close.
Giant satellite space laser is a more general idea. What you did with Mecha Sonic is absurdly specific.

@SXR123 wrote:Space colony Ark and the Death egg were both inspired by the Death star.
That's more of a parody actually.

@SXR123 wrote:I'm not gonna try and dodge the fact that the cannon looks pretty similar if not almost identical to alvin's. Like I said, Mecha's entire personality was pretty much inspired by Alvins. But putting a cannon on Mecha sonic isn't all that original either. He just made him more robotic. If you're talking about the perspective, well, yeah. They're pretty much the same.
Mecha Sonic never had an arm cannon of any kind, that was Alvin's idea and a good one for expanding Mecha Sonic as a character. Perspective? How about that, the focus strip, and the hand drawn knockoff of staring down the cannon's barrel with a little trapezoid fixture and decoration on it. Oh and it's Mecha Sonic for some reason in case you forgot.
Why is it just now that you're bitching about all this? He made this movie what, a year ago?
It's pretty obviously ripped off/inspired by SMBZ, however you want to put it.
If you ask me this whole thread seems pretty meaningless. It's not exactly hard to get a stolen video removed from Newgrounds. But for christ's sake do you have to cry about how corrupted sprite animation has gotten here? Is this really the place to do that?
And as far as solving the problem of people infecting the precious art of sprite animation, spitting hate and hostility at them is a pretty poor solution.
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on 3/24/2014, 9:18 am
Hey, guess what? We have different opinions and that's okay. Look, I'm not gonna argue with you because at the end of the day who is seriously gonna give a fuck? No one. No one is gonna be crying themselves to sleep about how shitty an animation was because it copied SMBZ. No one is gonna be writing fucking laws trying to prevent people from copying SMBZ. And no one is gonna be stressed all day trying to make sure their animation doesn't copy SMBZ. No one cares. I get why you're mad. If I was in your same situation then I'd probably be mad also, but I'm not and I'm not gonna pretend like I am.

@Mr Lange wrote:
@SXR123 wrote:inspiration
Yeah that's uh... that's one word for it.

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:And hey the actual gun is different too!
Just saying...
Circle with trapezoid fixture with trapezoid decoration in it, but its a little different so that must make it ok.

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:You know, it's incredibly hard to be original these days.
No it's not. And even if it is, 10/10 excuse. It's hard so let's just not try at all and make total piss out of something someone else did that was original, because if what they did was cool, your version will be just as cool, fucking logic right. Why would you WANT to blatantly copy someone else anyway?? Wouldn't you want to try and do your own thing at least?

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:Even game developers and movie directors are having problems with it. It's like with any kind of movie or game or something you can have people who can see how that piece of work is similar from other pieces of work.
Yeah I'm sick of this being stapled to the argument, it's a different fucking argument altogether and has no place here. There is a massive difference between "similar" and "copy".

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:I think we should just make what we want to make
Goes back to my point of why in the hell would you want to copy others. You're not entirely "making" something if you're just copying it.

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:because fuck it, we're having fun and there's nothing wrong with having fun as long as we aren't harming blatantly harming others, IMO.
Who the hell has fun ripping off SMBZ-- a lot of people apparently nevermind. Although this suddenly begs the question, is this a sprite animation forum or a "SMBZ clone" forum? I'm thinking you guys might as well make an SMBZ clone forum since you love it so much, as a containment forum, you know, a quarantine for the plague of shit that is definitely it's own category. Here, we make sprite animations. There, you can pat each other on the back for being Alvin wannabes and just have a merry old time making an entire god damn atheneum of SMBZ clones and build your fortress of self gratification that has an army of incredibly hostile and defensive people ready to lose their shit the moment a single person gets near and tells them what they're doing is pathetic and that they should try something original, they'll arm their slings and cannons with classical comebacks such as "IT'S JUST FOR FUN" and "SO IF IT USES DBZ SOUNDS ITS A RIPOFF" ensuring that they will never have to give a flying shit about what little respect there is left in sprite animation and actively eroding it until there's nothing left, and what does it matter should anyone think them low or repulsive so long as their community is constantly congratulating them with hollow remarks and dishonest blessings ad nauseum for their ugly mutant spawn that they'll caress and admire and put on unrighteous pedestals while never budging from their wonderful tumorous comfort stank. But hey it's just for fun guys.

Look, you said all of this hurtful kind of shit. But I wasn't thinking this when I watched SXR's movie and I'm pretty sure at least 99.8% of everyone else weren't thinking this when they watched SXR's movie. It's just a form of entertainment and it was good entertainment! But yeah, I agree with Knux, this isn't really the place to talk about this so this post is all I'm saying about this. We should return to the topic at hand.
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on 3/24/2014, 9:44 am
Alright, problem solved! Lol
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on 3/24/2014, 9:56 am
...Rapid you're Awesome. teach me the ways of you Zen.

I wake up this morning to find Lange Raging like A....Well me.(LOL) And your reaction to it Rapid was so cool and calm. My respect sir, you have earned it.

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on 3/24/2014, 10:12 am
@Face wrote:...Rapid you're Awesome. teach me the ways of you Zen.

I wake up this morning to find Lange Raging like A....Well me.(LOL) And your reaction to it Rapid was so cool and calm. My respect sir, you have earned it.

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