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on 10/26/2012, 8:30 am
It should:
Use the engine from Sonic Adventure 1
Have Silver in it but he needs to be a powerhouse and not 06 Silver.
Bring back power ups.
Have snowboarding sections.
Bring back the spindash.

It shouldn't:
Have more than 2 new characters
Have Marine.
Be easy or a boostfest.

Anything else?

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on 10/26/2012, 9:57 am
I agree. They should keep the grinding though. Seriously, the grinding parts were fun! Also, tails needs to be on his feet instead of inside some machine thing. Those were always my least favorite stages. And a lot of people don't like Knuckles/Rouge stages but I loved them. Also, I thought the music was pretty good which everyone seems to hate. I mean by itself the music is ok but when added to the gameplay it really adds to the atmosphere well.

Also Sega needs to fully explain how Shadow survived the fall through the atmosphere. In the comics (Archie), he is teleported to an alien ship and healed there which would completely explain the chaos control at the end of Sonic Adventure 2.



See around 38 seconds Shadow falls into what appears to a either a chaos control or some sort of teleportation portal or something.

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on 10/26/2012, 10:46 am
Yeah, I don't want one.

The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be.

I don't want an SA3 for the same reason of sonic 4. First of all, the name is a lot to live up to which is why sonic 4 was so disappointing not because the game was bad but because it was just too much to live up to.

I also don't want an SA3 because I know they'll just fuck it up like they always do.

the game will not have the SA1 or SA2 engine. They'll keep it the same way they have it now. The story will be bullshit retarded like the rest of the games and you will most likely be disappointed. It will have little to no exploration and will most likely be a game that you just bush boost and you pretty much win.

The new games and stories are bullshit easy and stupid because they're appealing to children more. That's why we got the last game. Amy sounds like mini mouse and I wouldn't be able to stand her for more than five minutes in a new game. We're getting a less serious sonic and a more jokester, who makes shitty puns and jokes in an attempt to make five year olds giggle.

Game after game, ever since SA2, sonic has seemed less and less like his old self. If they make a new game, they need to get the writers of the archie comics to come in an help them out.

Sonic games are a shell of what they used to be and sonic isn't the character he used to be. The same goes for eggman. He used to be a villain you wanted to fear, almost killing sonic in SA2 and just being downright evil. Now he's just a gimmick they put in.

Sonic is appealing to five year olds now. Which really sucks.

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on 10/26/2012, 11:12 am
Why the fuck would they use the Adventure engine? Not only is it awful to play with due to the fact that moving your controller slightly could send you veering off into a bottomlesss pit but the current gameplay is just fine. I've said it loads of times, SEGA would have to be retarded to go away from the gameplay style that is actually working. It's extremely obvious SEGA does not know how to make a proper game in that style.

Also, fun fact; If Sonic 06 had been named SA3 fans would have loved it, because obviously the name of a game will determine how good it is.

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on 10/26/2012, 1:06 pm
Blitz n' Burst wrote:Why the fuck would they use the Adventure engine? Not only is it awful to play with due to the fact that moving your controller slightly could send you veering off into a bottomlesss pit but the current gameplay is just fine. I've said it loads of times, SEGA would have to be retarded to go away from the gameplay style that is actually working. It's extremely obvious SEGA does not know how to make a proper game in that style.

Also, fun fact; If Sonic 06 had been named SA3 fans would have loved it, because obviously the name of a game will determine how good it is.

...I honestly think you're just bad at the game lol the Adventure engine was amazing and fun. And no, Sonic 06 was bad because of all the glitches and shit. I mean it looked good, but the way it played was glitchy as hell and pretty dumb. Tbh, I'd be fine even if they used the engine from Sonic Heroes. I didn't really like it too much but the stages were still really enjoyable, IMO.

Also, SEGA out to release a sort of mini game for XBL and PSN where you raise chao. Seriously, I think they'd make billions.
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on 10/26/2012, 1:45 pm
no, sega should stopping fucking with sonic on his good serieses.
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on 10/26/2012, 2:14 pm
06 was a very rushed game and it was badly done. The fact that sonic had a human love interest fucked it up even more.

06 COULD have been a good game if they had taken their time on it.

second, no, the adventure style of gameplay was great. I loved it. when you go fast in that game you REALLY feel like you're going fast. Unlike the newer games where everything is just blurry. sure, it looks nice the first few times but then it just gets old, boring and everything's blurred to make you think you're going fast.

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on 10/26/2012, 2:39 pm
@SXR123 wrote:06 was a very rushed game and it was badly done. The fact that sonic had a human love interest fucked it up even more.

06 COULD have been a good game if they had taken their time on it.

second, no, the adventure style of gameplay was great. I loved it. when you go fast in that game you REALLY feel like you're going fast. Unlike the newer games where everything is just blurry. sure, it looks nice the first few times but then it just gets old, boring and everything's blurred to make you think you're going fast.

Except the only game to do it right was Adventure. SA2 was extremely linear and hardly had any branching pathways, making the levels extremely boring, and Sonic 06 is... well, Sonic 06.

Even Generations, with its amount of branching pathways, would not work with Adventure's gameplay style. Like I said, it's clear SEGA doesn't know how to do this right.

I'm all for multiple characters, but I'm seriously going to rip my hair out if Sonic Team decides to go down a path that's pretty much doomed for failure. I'd much prefer an S3&K style of game with Modern Sonic - multiple character, each with their own unique abilities which allow them to reach their own pathways, meaning that even though the levels are the same they all feel different. I really do like Adventure, and despite its horrible controls I did genuinely enjoy it (Big and Amy notwithstanding) but really, it was a very flawed game.

Although, really, if they do make it an Adventure 3, I won't mind too much so long as it takes from the Adventure series in gameplay only. I may have to murder SEGA if they come out with another attempt at conveying drama in a Sonic game. I'd prefer something along the lines of Ratchet and Clank - it still takes itself seriously, but it doesn't take itself too seriously and isn't afraid to be comical. That's part of why I like Unleashed so much, it was the first modern Sonic game with a plot I actually cared about.

If we do get an SA3, I DEMAND more Knuckles raps. Seriously.

Also Rapid I liked Heroes Sad

**EDIT** SXR you quite clearly haven't played eitehr Generations or Colours if you're using the boost-to-win card. Both games have plenty of branching pathways so I have o idea where the hell you pulled that from, especially considering every other Modern game that is not Adventure 1 or Heroes also suffers from the exact same problem. I think you're being a little overly critical here. Then again you're actually asking for a serious plot in a Sonic game so meh.

Also Rapid Shadow the Hedgehog did give an explanation to what happened to Shadow but for some reason they decided to make it happen like ten minutes into the final boss when you're probably not gonna hear it. Yep, they decided to put one of the most important plot pooint where it is probably not going to be heard by people not deliberately looking for stuff.

Pretty much the only thing I agree with in the OP is the power ups bit and the no new characters thing (And maybe the snowboarding bit since in Generations they made a boarding section that ACTUALLY PLAYS WELL :O)
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on 10/26/2012, 7:07 pm
Knuckles Raps for the win!



Pumpkin Hill was such a boss stage. Lol.
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on 10/26/2012, 8:22 pm
Make multiple char storylines like SA1, the chao stuff of SA2, and somehow combine the gameplay of SA2 and Unleashed (sonic only), with online chao capability would be godly. IMO at least

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on 10/26/2012, 11:31 pm
@Granadico wrote:Make multiple char storylines like SA1, the chao stuff of SA2, and somehow combine the gameplay of SA2 and Unleashed (sonic only), with online chao capability would be godly. IMO at least

ONLINE CHAO CAPABILITIES!! OMG THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME. SERIOUSLY, SEGA NEEDS TO MAKE IT NOW!!
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on 10/27/2012, 3:56 am
@SXR123 wrote:Yeah, I don't want one.

The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be.

I don't want an SA3 for the same reason of sonic 4. First of all, the name is a lot to live up to which is why sonic 4 was so disappointing not because the game was bad but because it was just too much to live up to.

I also don't want an SA3 because I know they'll just fuck it up like they always do.

the game will not have the SA1 or SA2 engine. They'll keep it the same way they have it now. The story will be bullshit retarded like the rest of the games and you will most likely be disappointed. It will have little to no exploration and will most likely be a game that you just bush boost and you pretty much win.

The new games and stories are bullshit easy and stupid because they're appealing to children more. That's why we got the last game. Amy sounds like mini mouse and I wouldn't be able to stand her for more than five minutes in a new game. We're getting a less serious sonic and a more jokester, who makes shitty puns and jokes in an attempt to make five year olds giggle.

Game after game, ever since SA2, sonic has seemed less and less like his old self. If they make a new game, they need to get the writers of the archie comics to come in an help them out.

Sonic games are a shell of what they used to be and sonic isn't the character he used to be. The same goes for eggman. He used to be a villain you wanted to fear, almost killing sonic in SA2 and just being downright evil. Now he's just a gimmick they put in.

Sonic is appealing to five year olds now. Which really sucks.
I can see what you mean and I agree with the bit about the new storylines and dialogue.

@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:Why the fuck would they use the Adventure engine? Not only is it awful to play with due to the fact that moving your controller slightly could send you veering off into a bottomlesss pit but the current gameplay is just fine. I've said it loads of times, SEGA would have to be retarded to go away from the gameplay style that is actually working. It's extremely obvious SEGA does not know how to make a proper game in that style.

Also, fun fact; If Sonic 06 had been named SA3 fans would have loved it, because obviously the name of a game will determine how good it is.
I don't think controls bad and I play the game on NullDC, for fuck's sake.

Blitz n' Burst wrote:...I honestly think you're just bad at the game lol the Adventure engine was amazing and fun. And no, Sonic 06 was bad because of all the glitches and shit. I mean it looked good, but the way it played was glitchy as hell and pretty dumb. Tbh, I'd be fine even if they used the engine from Sonic Heroes. I didn't really like it too much but the stages were still really enjoyable, IMO.

Also, SEGA out to release a sort of mini game for XBL and PSN where you raise chao. Seriously, I think they'd make billions.
Sonic 06 was not bad just because it was glitchy. Don't get me wrong, it was glitchy. But it was also badly designed. Does anyone remember Silver's "pool ball sections" or his combat system being glitchy enough to cstop you from progressing? No.
The game isn't bad because SEGA released it before it was complete. Hell, it pretty much was. It's just because Sonic Team couldn't be bothered,

@Granadico wrote:Make multiple char storylines like SA1, the chao stuff of SA2, and somehow combine the gameplay of SA2 and Unleashed (sonic only), with online chao capability would be godly. IMO at least
Have you ever considered overthrowing Sonic Team and putting yourself, some good script writers and a bunch of brilliant programmers, in thier place? Seriously, this guy knows how to make a Sonic game!

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on 10/27/2012, 5:55 am
Um, I think you messed up your quotes...

Chao do not belong in Sonic. Not that I didn't enjoy it, but really, they were just filler and extremely out of place, especially considering I had to grind for fucking ages just to get the goddamn emblems. No, they have no place in the games.

This is why I want a spinoff series or downloadable game or something about the Chao Gardens. This way SEGA makes tons of money with all the Chao Garden fans without having people complain about their presence in the Sonic games.

Only issue would be lack of grinding in the levels and considering what fanbase this is people will probably bitch about it.

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on 10/27/2012, 11:50 am
Sonic 4 Ep. 2 was pretty better than the 1

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on 10/27/2012, 12:37 pm
Sonic 4 is a good game in its own right if you manage to forget the fact its supposed to emulate the genesis games. And if you pretend its called something else.

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on 10/27/2012, 12:47 pm
Blitz n' Burst wrote:Um, I think you messed up your quotes...

Chao do not belong in Sonic. Not that I didn't enjoy it, but really, they were just filler and extremely out of place, especially considering I had to grind for fucking ages just to get the goddamn emblems. No, they have no place in the games.

This is why I want a spinoff series or downloadable game or something about the Chao Gardens. This way SEGA makes tons of money with all the Chao Garden fans without having people complain about their presence in the Sonic games.

Only issue would be lack of grinding in the levels and considering what fanbase this is people will probably bitch about it.
I kinda agree, they should not be part of the main storyline or needed to complete the game. But they should be at least a side thing (and no DLC or any BS about buying more) because they were a game in itself, you could play that game for weeks just focusing on the chao aspect

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on 10/27/2012, 12:53 pm
@Bradders98 wrote:Sonic 4 is a good game in its own right if you manage to forget the fact its supposed to emulate the genesis games. And if you pretend its called something else.

Episode 2, maybe, but episode 1, oh god no.

The fact that it doesn't even try to be Sonic 4 is only half the problem. The fact that it claims to be Sonic 4 and yet is absolutely atrocious is the reason most people hate it. Everything looks plastic-y and the contrasting art styles make it even worse, the game is extremely boring and linear, with almost no branching pathways and about half the levels are springs and boosters, not to mention the loads of bottomless pits. Most of the music is bland and generic and the few good tracks are ruined by the dying cat synth.

I like episode 2. Episode 2 was fun. Definitely doesn't deserve to be called Sonic 4 but it wasn't a bad game. But episode 1 really made me want to throw my computer out the window.

Now SEGA actually know what they're doing I'm actually looking forward to episode 3.

**EDIT** Looking back I think I'm sounding a little overly negative in these posts lol.
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on 10/27/2012, 1:58 pm
How the hell do Chao not need to be involved in the main storyline?

The point of chao are to give the player a break by giving them mini games that consist of raising chao to fight or race; or just raising them which is fun as well.

In the Sonic culture however, Chaos was the guardian of the Chao so to take them out of the picture would mean to effectively take out cultural significance from the Sonic Adventure franchise.

Also, THIS looks awesome. Yes, I've played/beaten the game like 50 times in my youth but I don't care. The game is awesome.
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on 10/27/2012, 2:35 pm
Well i mean like having to raise them shouldn't be part of the main storyline, but they would still be in the game (yeah cuz of Chaos and Cheese).

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on 10/27/2012, 3:09 pm
@Rapidfir3Pho3nix wrote:How the hell do Chao not need to be involved in the main storyline?

The point of chao are to give the player a break by giving them mini games that consist of raising chao to fight or race; or just raising them which is fun as well.

In the Sonic culture however, Chaos was the guardian of the Chao so to take them out of the picture would mean to effectively take out cultural significance from the Sonic Adventure franchise.

Also, THIS looks awesome. Yes, I've played/beaten the game like 50 times in my youth but I don't care. The game is awesome.

Um, I was referring to the Chao gardens specifically, not the chao themselves. That would be a pretty major retcon.
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on 10/28/2012, 12:36 am
@Granadico wrote:Well i mean like having to raise them shouldn't be part of the main storyline, but they would still be in the game (yeah cuz of Chaos and Cheese).

But you don't even have to use the Chao Garden to progress through the game! I mean you might accidentally pick one of them keys up that takes you there automatically but you just go back to the portal and you're back in the story.

Spoiler:

Also, the story of SA2 was amazing now that I think about it. I mean some parts were pretty dumb like how characters confused Shadow and Sonic but everything else was really executed nicely. I mean, you can't tell me you weren't in awe when Shadow introduced Chaos Control and then when Sonic uses said Chaos Control later using a FAKE chaos emerald. Which reminds me of when he was supposed to blow up in that space pod and I remember seeing that and nearly shutting off the game because you don't even find out Sonic survives until you finish the level after that cutscene. And then in the final story when everyone works together is just amazing especially the last part where Super Sonic and Super Shadow use chaos control to reposition the Ark out of orbit of Earth thereby saving Earth; then Shadow, believing his promise to Maria fulfilled, supposedly falls to Earth and dies. I mean, the ending literally had me in tears, but not because the ending was beautiful but the entire game (storywise) was beautiful. Seriously, to hate the story of this game you have to be biased towards Sonic because it's simply amazing.
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on 10/28/2012, 12:41 am
I was talking to Blitz about that, i know its not part of the main storyline btu he was saying they shouldn't be.
And yeah the Sonic/Shadow mix up always pissed me off, how do you mistake them >_>
Also even if they Chaos Controlled, wouldn't the Ark still be moving? I mean it was speeding through the atmosphere, shouldn't it still have the momentum even though they teleported? /smartass

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on 10/28/2012, 4:56 am
Well if they Chaos Control'd it near enough to the Sun, it would held by its gravitational pull.

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on 10/28/2012, 7:06 am
Quite clearly everyone in the Sonic universe is colour-blind.

The entire government thought Shadow was Sonic, Silver thought Shadow was Mephiles (Though this one was understandable) and Amy and Elise thought Silver was Sonic.

On a completely unrelated note Silver's head looks like marijuana.

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I want Sonic Adventure 3 Empty Re: I want Sonic Adventure 3

on 10/28/2012, 7:13 am
ALso, they need to make this the theme song:

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