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5/14/2012, 10:30 am
not just capcom but Snk, Rare, whoever made guilty gear and blaze blue,
Reuben kee(some of dragonclaws effects are in there and he was 100% original last i checked),

btw I remember DD saying something like "heaven distributed the effects without (insert other guys name here) permission"

if he didn't want them floating on the net then how did heaven get them to begin with? obviously the guy would have to have sent them out at some point. so my question is what made him stop?

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5/14/2012, 4:02 pm
I MADE THIS LARGE SO EVERYONE WOULD READ IT AND I'D BE NOTICED. up until may 26th I will not active due to the fact that the due date for my movie is drawing near. I love you all and wish for you to bear my babies.

So yeah. SXR OUT.


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5/14/2012, 4:57 pm
ah crap first D3 now your sonic face, please don't leave me Sad

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5/14/2012, 5:00 pm
Don't worry. I'll be back before may ends. I'LL NEVAH LEAVE YOU GUYZ.

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5/14/2012, 6:14 pm
ignore's SXR* Hey I have them effect and except a few there all mugen effects that can easily be acquired

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5/14/2012, 8:14 pm
if they can be acquired so easily, then go to fighter factory and rip them yourself, or better yet

fuck pre-made effects, start drawing your own.
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5/14/2012, 8:22 pm
Joey has spoken once more

I don't recall anyone making any points on the ease of accessibility, all we remarked on was that no ripper had special ownership of these effects and thus had no business in distribution limits. And if your second point had any relevance to this, we really wouldn't be debating this in the first place.

Quit crying.

eeeyup. I'm just the messenger.

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5/14/2012, 8:24 pm
@darkdragon581 wrote:if they can be acquired so easily, then go to fighter factory and rip them yourself, or better yet

fuck pre-made effects, start drawing your own.
dude calm yo ass down ,look I respect the guys request but I also see the point the others are making...thats all

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5/14/2012, 8:25 pm
joey is the real cry baby, i gave the warning and he choose to blatantly ignore it.

he was being a smart ass cunt and deserved the ban, you can only push your luck so far.

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lets use this as an example, back like a year ago, i ripped a fuckload of mugen effects and put them into a series of Fla's so i could share them with the animators i know and respect, lets say i found out that someone else had posted the pack on a separate site and a bunch of people i don't even know were abusing these effects.

i would want them taken down right now.
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5/14/2012, 8:29 pm
@darkdragon581 wrote:joey is the real cry baby, i gave the warning and he choose to blatantly ignore it.

he was being a smart ass cunt and deserved the ban, you can only push your luck so far.
no doubt he's an ass....yea but come on.....you poked that bear LOL


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5/14/2012, 8:31 pm
@Face wrote:
@darkdragon581 wrote:joey is the real cry baby, i gave the warning and he choose to blatantly ignore it.

he was being a smart ass cunt and deserved the ban, you can only push your luck so far.
no doubt he's an ass....yea but come on.....you poked that bear LOL


if anything i'm the bear and he tried to T-bag me


now he has no balls.
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5/14/2012, 8:41 pm
@darkdragon581 wrote:
@Face wrote:
@darkdragon581 wrote:joey is the real cry baby, i gave the warning and he choose to blatantly ignore it.

he was being a smart ass cunt and deserved the ban, you can only push your luck so far.
no doubt he's an ass....yea but come on.....you poked that bear LOL


if anything i'm the bear and he tried to T-bag me


now he has no balls.
and a mangled bottom lower half

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5/14/2012, 8:46 pm
Joey has spoken once more.

Congratulations, you abandoned the argument for irrelevant nonsense and insults.

Your example only shows you're a selfish hog and that is a detriment to a community, which means you really have no right to say you're part of the community.
You just ripped effects.
You didn't make them, you didn't do anything special but extract them.
And I can only assume you're a gigantic hypocritical whore as now you seem to want to only care about rippers who do absolutely nothing whereas the designers are the ones that actually make it, yet you seem to give no fucks whatsoever.

BTW, I'm not upset by the ban or anything, I'm disturbed by how fucking retarded the reason is and how retarded I now see you are.

don't beat me up D:

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5/14/2012, 9:34 pm
Agreeing with Joey so much here. Even if you ripped them and put them in a file, it doesn't give you any ownership. That's pretty much like downloading a load of your favourite songs, putting them one disc, then claiming that everything on the disc belongs to you. It's retarded and just doesn't work. And he's right, you are being selfish if you can't even share something that you ripped from something that doesn't even belong to you. Fair enough if you created it, but you didn't.

Hell, let's go even further with this logic.

Lets use this as an example, back like a year ago, you ripped a fuckload of mugen effects and put them into a series of Fla's so you could share them with the animators you know and respect. Lets say Capcom found out that you had created and posted the pack on a load of spriting sites and a bunch of people that didn't gain permission to use or modify their content were abusing these effects.

THEY would want them taken down right now and THEY would have the actual right to, because they created the original content, not the person who distributed it.

Bottom line, this community should be about helping people reach their maximum potential in the field of animation. We should be graciously helping eachother with requests and help, not being selfish and only giving effects to your best buds. Nobody has any say in the matter of who is allowed what effects except the designers themselves period.

Just giving my 2 cents.
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5/14/2012, 9:41 pm
@Carlotso25 wrote:Agreeing with Joey so much here. Even if you ripped them and put them in a file, it doesn't give you any ownership. That's pretty much like downloading a load of your favourite songs, putting them one disc, then claiming that everything on the disc belongs to you. It's retarded and just doesn't work. And he's right, you are being selfish if you can't even share something that you ripped from something that doesn't even belong to you. Fair enough if you created it, but you didn't.

Hell, let's go even further with this logic.

Lets use this as an example, back like a year ago, you ripped a fuckload of mugen effects and put them into a series of Fla's so you could share them with the animators you know and respect. Lets say Capcom found out that you had created and posted the pack on a load of spriting sites and a bunch of people that didn't gain permission to use or modify their content were abusing these effects.

THEY would want them taken down right now and THEY would have the actual right to, because they created the original content, not the person who distributed it.

Bottom line, this community should be about helping people reach their maximum potential in the field of animation. We should be graciously helping eachother with requests and help, not being selfish and only giving effects to your best buds. Nobody has any say in the matter of who is allowed what effects except the designers themselves period.

Just giving my 2 cents.
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5/14/2012, 9:53 pm
Joey is too right.
I understand your reasons DD, by having everyone downloading and using these packs left and right they kinda lose their value but the people who make those didn't make any of those effects so there's nothing you can do about it.

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