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3/11/2012, 5:57 pm
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3/13/2012, 9:11 pm
Helix renders to video, or image sequences. Ideally it can render sequences of separate layers for composition, and separate include z buffers and things like that for compositing in other software like After Effects. I'm hoping we can also make use of the advanced image formats like openexr and multilayer. But yeah, ultimately you render the video itself for Youtube or what have you.

A lot of people have asked if it can render to swf. Well, you are all idiots. The things Helix is capable of far transcend what swf files can normally do. It may be possible to cheat though, by mixing what it can do in 3d with prerendered images, but ultimately your best bet is a video format. You can always contain videos within swf files or load videos into swfs as a player, enabling your animations to go on NG or Fluidanims. Otherwise, forcing an swf to render what Helix creates would be insane and borderline impossible.

Some people have even asked if Helix can save to fla files. roflmfao. That is not even remotely feasible or even useful, nor does it make any sense whatsoever.

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3/13/2012, 9:30 pm
@Mr Lange wrote:Some people have even asked if Helix can save to fla files. roflmfao. That is not even remotely feasible or even useful, nor does it make any sense whatsoever.

I used to think that people still had some tidbits of intelligence.

I guess I was wrong..
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3/13/2012, 11:22 pm
Rendering a complex 3D animation in SWF could be a good way to test the combustibility of a computer!

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3/14/2012, 6:00 pm
@Eric wrote:Rendering a complex 3D animation in SWF could be a good way to test the combustibility of a computer!
This makes want to render a complex 3D animation in Swf but idk long it would take to pay for reparations or how long I would be punished.
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3/14/2012, 6:27 pm
Well the latest developments in the Flash Player have made hardware acceleration possible, so technically they are capable of amazing things now. If things go the way they are going, then it may be possible to render Helix animations to swf to a limited degree. It would still be really stupid to do though because unlike 2d Flash animations, a realtime version of Helix animation would be very large in file size and run a high risk of imperfect fps, depending on how complex your work is. Not to mention... decompileable...

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3/14/2012, 6:36 pm
Just think.........the ultimate animation program is being worked on. Very exciting.
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3/14/2012, 6:41 pm
@Mr Lange wrote:Not to mention... decompileable...

Which is...NO GOOD
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3/14/2012, 7:22 pm
kids, there's nothing more cool then watching a flash you like! But if someone tries to decompile this flash in any shape or form, that's NO GOOD. It's their flash! Nobody has the right to steal that stuff! so what do you do? first, you say FUCK YOU. Then, you KICK HIS ASS.

most important, make sure to kick him in the nuts a few times so he doesn't forget! *zips away*

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3/14/2012, 8:18 pm
@SXR123 wrote:kids, there's nothing more cool then watching a flash you like! But if someone tries to decompile this flash in any shape or form, that's NO GOOD. It's their flash! Nobody has the right to steal that stuff! so what do you do? first, you say FUCK YOU. Then, you KICK HIS ASS.

most important, make sure to kick him in the nuts a few times so he doesn't forget! *zips away*

roflmao

No let's stop derailing this thread.
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3/14/2012, 8:52 pm
@Mr Lange wrote:Not to mention... decompileable...
I'd be less concerned about this since we now have software that can stop this. Then again, as any form of protagonizing (not a word i know) technology is created it's antagonizing equal is created.

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3/14/2012, 11:12 pm
@Eric wrote:
@Mr Lange wrote:Not to mention... decompileable...
I'd be less concerned about this since we now have software that can stop this. Then again, as any form of protagonizing (not a word i know) technology is created it's antagonizing equal is created.
Yeah but then they make six sequels and the protagonist technology finally prevails over the antagonist software by using the force

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3/15/2012, 12:34 pm
@Jellal wrote:
@Eric wrote:
@Mr Lange wrote:Not to mention... decompileable...
I'd be less concerned about this since we now have software that can stop this. Then again, as any form of protagonizing (not a word i know) technology is created it's antagonizing equal is created.
Yeah but then they make six sequels and the protagonist technology finally prevails over the antagonist software by using the force

Amen.

Can't wait until this can actually do shit.
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3/16/2012, 7:41 pm
@SXR123 wrote:kids, there's nothing more cool then watching a flash you like! But if someone tries to decompile this flash in any shape or form, that's NO GOOD. It's their flash! Nobody has the right to steal that stuff! so what do you do? first, you say FUCK YOU. Then, you KICK HIS ASS.

most important, make sure to kick him in the nuts a few times so he doesn't forget! *zips away*

I wish this was a real Sonic Sez Says. Damn. Moving on.

Yes there is the anti-decompile software but there is a decent chance it won't work for what Helix puts in an swf. Not to mention decompilation was only one factor, there's plenty of other impractical reasons to render such animations into an swf format.

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3/16/2012, 8:08 pm
this program looks completely awesome. cant wait to try it. also does it lagg (like skip some frames and stuff like on flash)?

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3/18/2012, 2:00 pm
If this project is successful it can me a multi-million dollar idea
I would help but I don't have the library of experience at the moment
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3/18/2012, 2:39 pm
@TheGensis wrote:If this project is successful it can me a multi-million dollar idea
I would help but I don't have the library of experience at the moment

And now we have found a guy among us who thinks about money XD

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3/18/2012, 2:54 pm
@Blackleafe wrote:
@TheGensis wrote:If this project is successful it can me a multi-million dollar idea
I would help but I don't have the library of experience at the moment

And now we have found a guy among us who thinks about money XD

Its not that I was just thinking how it could benefit the community of spritas and the site if we have a self made program better then anything ever done before
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3/18/2012, 2:56 pm
Lol i was just kidding...

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3/18/2012, 7:46 pm
He is right though. Money = Love and Happiness
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3/18/2012, 8:16 pm
No but lets not get into a debate about Money, love and happiness.

Helix will be free because how could we deprive potential artists from such a powerful tool over something like cost...and it's open source.
So it would HAVE to be free by law.

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3/18/2012, 8:58 pm
Helix will be free because how could we deprive potential artists from such a powerful tool over something like cost.

Talk to the C.E.O of Adobe. xD

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3/18/2012, 9:38 pm
@NS01 wrote:
Helix will be free because how could we deprive potential artists from such a powerful tool over something like cost.

Talk to the C.E.O of Adobe. xD
Adobe is still kind of cool. While they may charge a lot, they openly admitted to not caring about how you get their products. As in they don't care if you pirate it.

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3/18/2012, 10:15 pm
yoshifanatic2595 wrote:He is right though. Money = Love and Happiness
Yes but we're all miserable emotionless bitches

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3/19/2012, 12:18 am
^ Dafuq? xD

Nah, but still that software looks PROPER

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