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@Jellal wrote:Being gay is a sinful lifestyle choice that us sinful folk are forcing on traditional Americans.

I agree fully

Post of the eternity

Hitler was one of the greatest speakers considering the amount of people he could brainwash and yes lets move on to the gay one's topic.

@Jellal wrote:

Patt (프랭크) wrote:Abortion is wrong. From the moment the egg and sperm unite, fertilization occurs, it is a living thing. I understand that carrying a baby that you would not want to keep would be so annoying, and so painstaking, but I honestly think that if you carry something for nine months, you will grow to love it. Even if you're raped, you should still carry the baby, even if you're put through nine months of pain, and that one day of extreme pain, just to give the baby to someone. You need to understand that there are so many people that cannot have babies, there are so many people that can seriously not take care of an infant and can be great parents when the child is a toddler. Abortion...just should not be allowed.

That's a dogmatic way of looking at things.

It's been debated whether or not life begins at fertilization, and it's pretty weird to just simply claim it does, since that's still wildly debated.

The reason most girls get an abortion IS the fact that they will come to love the baby inevitably, but can't support it, so they'd have to give it up for adoption.

Okay, so tell a woman, who can't support a baby, she cannot get an abortion, so she can go through nine months of painful joints, morning sickness, acid reflux, possibly lose her job, dozens of hours in labor and give birth to her baby; whom she will inevitably love and hand them over to complete strangers which is the equivalent to putting a knife in her chest and twisting it everyday, or she can have a safe medical operation and some closure.

Women don't owe anybody their fertility.

In another scenario, what if the woman was suffering from an ectopic pregnancy? Or a dystocia pregnancy?
You realize since abortion would not be legal, she and the baby would just have to die.
That's even more inhumane than simply terminating a fetus.

You pose great scenarios.

Let me ask you all a question.

How many of you asked to be in this world?

You cannot put someone into this world, your own genes, your own blood, your name, your life, into another person and just kill it off because you know you cannot support it. You may have good incentives, but most of my family in New York is pretty poor, I mean, not poor, but you know, just not middle class or whatever. My aunt, she gave birth to twins at 18, and she was planning on getting an abortion, but realized that she can support two babies. She could not just delete them from life, it's not right. You have family in this world, you have other ways to obtain money besides working. Your parents will more than likely be willing to help support you, the only reason they would not, is if you just give them the baby.

I can understand why you would abort, and in some cases, I think that it may just be worth it. My mom was pregnant five times. I was the first, the four after me, each one year apart, all died, miscarriages, and two died at birth. My mom was devastated and she still cannot get over it. My youngest brother, the fifth one, was going to be aborted because my mom did not want to see another baby die in front of her eyes again. However, my dad talked her into letting him live, and he is now 8, his name is Matthew after the Matthew in the Bible. I think abortion should only be done in times where it must be. And that's it. Just like putting down a dog. Otherwise, a mother should be a mother, and the father should be a father.

On the homosexual topic, don't even get me started. And it wouldn't be interesting, Joey and I are on the same side. : P

Patt (프랭크) wrote:
I can understand why you would abort, and in some cases, I think that it may just be worth it. My mom was pregnant five times. I was the first, the four after me, each one year apart, all died, miscarriages, and two died at birth. My mom was devastated and she still cannot get over it. My youngest brother, the fifth one, was going to be aborted because my mom did not want to see another baby die in front of her eyes again. However, my dad talked her into letting him live, and he is now 8, his name is Matthew after the Matthew in the Bible. I think abortion should only be done in times where it must be. And that's it. Just like putting down a dog. Otherwise, a mother should be a mother, and the father should be a father.

Anyways, I'm not sure if I'm more terrified by the amount of miscarriages, or the thought your dad couldn't use a condom FIVE times

They wanted kids, so I guess that would be why.

So does your mom have a crap load of stretch marks now?
We needs a new topic

Topic: When Cloning humans it as if we are trying to play god. (It controversial trust me religous noobs are gonna attack)

I also did a debate on that in school. Used religion again. Basically I don't get to choose, my group members are like, well, we need to use religion, Frank, you do it.

Toxic Reaper wrote:Topic: When Cloning humans it as if we are trying to play god. (It controversial trust me religous noobs are gonna attack)

That's...dumb...
That's like saying reproducing is trying to play god.

Well then tell that to the religious Christians not mee.

So yeah, how bout dat gay being a choice debate?
It's pretty controversial and overly mainstream. :V

Yeah do it...I if only there was more conservative Christians it would be funnier.

We can let Patt be a fundamentalist Christian :V

If there were fundamentalist christians here....well he probably wouldn't be here. We'd have drove him out if he didn't just leave in teh first place

Anyways, being gay is a choice.

Proof:
Some gay men can become straight, therefore being gay is a choice.

While we're on the point, being black is also a choice, because Micheal Jackson was black, but he became white, therefore you choose to be black.

@Granadico wrote:If there were fundamentalist christians here....well he probably wouldn't be here. We'd have drove him out if he didn't just leave in teh first place

wasn't that,that red X guy and that tails guy??LOL they never returned

I don't remember that guy, but see? my point has been proven already
Joey why you gotta be so sarcastic D:

@Granadico wrote:I don't remember that guy, but see? my point has been proven already
Joey why you gotta be so sarcastic D:

He was the little Bitch that liked my little pony

I am not sarcastic, I'm completely serious.

You fag enablers keep claiming homosexuality is something you're born with, which is ridiculous.
You're just making excuses so you can use your sinful lifestyle choice to destroy humanity.

@Jellal wrote:I am not sarcastic, I'm completely serious.

You fag enablers keep claiming homosexuality is something you're born with, which is ridiculous.
You're just making excuses so you can use your sinful lifestyle choice to destroy humanity.

Oh my god you're right.
We need to make Prohibition but for homosexuality

@Jellal wrote:I am not sarcastic, I'm completely serious.

You fag enablers keep claiming homosexuality is something you're born with, which is ridiculous.
You're just making excuses so you can use your sinful lifestyle choice to destroy humanity.

LOL! unbelievable LOL you're a fool

You know if I wanted to be gay why don't I get a boner around men it because your born with it...dumbass I can't just force an erection it comes naturally.

Toxic Reaper wrote:You know if I wanted to be gay why don't I get a boner around men it because your born with it...dumbass I can't just force an erection it comes naturally.

Whoa this thread is going the wrong way.....

Well that slipped out in the wrong way....

@Granadico wrote:

@Jellal wrote:I am not sarcastic, I'm completely serious.

You fag enablers keep claiming homosexuality is something you're born with, which is ridiculous.
You're just making excuses so you can use your sinful lifestyle choice to destroy humanity.

Oh my god you're right.
We need to make Prohibition but for homosexuality

There was one
The sodomy law
But you fag enablers and your witty satan possessed lawyers were able to overturn the laws
God will smite you all in hell